Wedding Venues in Mcbrides, MI

Wedding Venues in Mcbrides, MI

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43 Wedding Venues in Mcbrides, MI

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Hilltop Memory Makers 

5.0

Coral, MI
  • Up to 200 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $2,000

A rustic & chic West Michigan premier barn wedding venue in Coral, MI. With a timeless and distinctive ambience, our (temperature controlled!) barn provides an elegant backdrop to compliment your unique style. The "Party Barn" hosts a gorgeous bar and cocktail hour space , set next to the adorable outdoor dance floor. An on site farmhouse allows for a beautiful space for getting ready, as well as the option of staying overnight. There are 5 uniquely beautiful ceremony locations to choose from outside. Each of them offer a totally different aesthetic and view in each new season. With three acres of quiet countryside and verdant grounds, our open air spaces ensure tranquility for your momentous occasions. There are simple endless photo spots on the property and at each new turn, a space for you and your guests to mingle, model and make memories.

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I could not have chosen a more perfect spot for my wedding July 9th, 2022. We have since received so many compliments on our wedding and especially the location. Lexi and her awesome crew have created such a magical spot. Forever thankful to have chosen them for my big day!
Rachel &Cod R., 2 years ago
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Applewood Farms 

5.0

Ionia, MI
  • Up to 250 guests
  • Raw space
  • Indoor & outdoor

Welcome to Applewood Farms — the perfect Ionia venue for weddings and special events. Since 2018, we’ve seen to it that our couples, their families, and guests have the time of their lives. If you’re looking to put on an elegant affair with impeccable services and beautiful scenery, you’ve come to the right place. Our venue is a beautiful 10-acre apple orchard with rustic white barns, amazing scenery, a gorgeous bridal suite, and a spacious groom's suite. It's the perfect place for your wedding!

We got married in late fall and everything was perfect. Karie and her crew were so great to work with. We used Karie for the day of coordinating and she was worth very penny. She made everything so easy and stress free. She also has a great eye for decor. We had to change the ceremony from outside to inside last minute due to rain and they did it without causing us any worry. She is a very calming presence who is dedicated ensuring the couples have a wonderful day. I would highly recommend Applewood Farms to anyone looking for a beautiful and comfortable venue!
Muriel J., 10 months ago
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Waltman Lake Lodge 

5.0

Pierson, MI
  • Up to 300 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor

Waltman Lake Lodge is a unique destination venue, a rustic lakeside retreat, and an intimate gathering space nestled in the nature of Northern Michigan but just minutes from Grand Rapids. Let us help design your one-of-a-kind gathering or celebration!

Waltman Lake Lodge is incredible! We had our wedding here in July 2023 and it was our best day ever! This venue was so beautiful, I wish we stayed longer! We had a hand full of guest come from overseas that were able to stay right at the venue. The cabins are very nice, adorable & comfy. Emma was so wonderful and great to communicate with. Lindsey, the day of coordinator really out did herself. She really knows how to make your big day the best. It was sweet meeting Mark the owner as well. I can't thank these guys enough for all the hard work they did for us. 10/10 wedding venue for ceremony , reception & more!
Leah U., a year ago
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Bucks Run Golf Club 

3.5

Mount Pleasant, MI
  • Up to 300 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $6,500

Your Happily Ever After Begins at Bucks Run Bucks Run Golf Club is an award-winning, 18 hole golf course, centrally located in Mt. Pleasant, MI. The Bucks Run Clubhouse and Banquet Facility overlook beautiful Lake Fisher and several lush wooded areas, providing the perfect backdrop for your special day. The Bucks Run Banquet Facility can accommodate up to 300 guests, and also features an outdoor wedding venue, with a rustic wooden pergola, and a private outdoor patio space for guests to mingle comfortably during cocktail hour and your reception. Couples will receive assistance from a Personal Wedding Coordinator, who will aid in selecting and customizing one of many wedding packages, along with coordinating set-up and clean-up. As an added convenience, we also boast a private, onsite Bridal Suite to get ready and relax before your special day begins. See for yourself why brides & grooms from across the state have said "I do" at Bucks Run. Your happily ever after begins here!

Bucks Run is a beautiful wedding venue! If we had to get married again, we would choose this venue without any hesitation. My husband is an avid golfer and I love the water, and this met both of our wants. The lake in the background of the ceremony is so pretty, and this lake can also be seen in the reception space. And it's a golf course so my husband was happy about that. Ha! When we were initially looking for a venue, we reached out to a few other local golf courses, but Amy was prompt in her response and I could tell from our first few initial emails that Bucks Run was going to be the place for us. The food is AMAZING (I only wish we could take leftovers). The staff was AMAZING and super kind to all of our guests. And Amy was AMAZING. She was always quick to respond, even when I wasn't expecting a quick reply. Her answers were always clear, and she made sure that we had everything we wanted for our big day. I cannot recommend this venue enough. You won't regret it!
Ashley & J., 2 years ago
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Cannonsburg 

4.5

Belmont, MI
  • Up to 250 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $500

Thank you for your interest in us to be a possible selection for your wedding venue! Cannonsburg's classic, rustic elegance creates an atmosphere perfect for your dream wedding. Here at Cannonsburg, we have an option of both indoor or outdoor ceremonies, and three different reception rooms, each with beautiful views of the outdoors. There is also a deck area available to rent as well. In house, we have an amazing culinary team and a chef who can create a delicious menu for your special day! I hope we see you at Cannonsburg!

We had both ceremony and wedding on site with outside options, August 2021. Wonderful chef manned buffet. They worked with us with changes to schedule and planning around covid. Definitely would recommend.
Ashley and G., 3 years ago
The Milestone Barn 

5.0

Bannister, MI
  • Up to 230 guests
  • Raw space
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $3,500

We are located in Bannister, Michigan and were transformed to a barn wedding location in 2011. The owners realized that a rustic and country chic wedding was what they wanted soon after their engagement. Now they hope to bring their vision to others, while maintaining the affordability that allows everyone to enjoy a rustic barn wedding. The Milestone Barn serves the purpose of housing the weddings and other “milestone” events throughout ones life. Whether it’s a wedding, reception, graduation party, prom, or any other gathering, The Milestone Barn will provide you exactly the rustic country, yet elegant feeling you wish to achieve. Perfectly located 10 miles west of Chesaning, The Milestone Barn sits between Lansing, Saginaw and Flint, allowing us to serve the vast majority of lower Michigan.

We got married in August 2018 at The Milestone Barn and it was the wedding of our dreams! The barn and grounds are stunning. I loved everything about my wedding. Carolyn was amazing to work with and always there to answer my questions. People loved the venue so much that we talked about doing it again (minus the wedding part). You won’t regret getting married there. If you are looking for food, hotel, or someone to marry you they have recommendations!! I wouldn’t have changed a thing.
Ryan and L., 4 years ago
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Briar Barns 

5.0

Sparta, MI
  • Up to 200 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $4,900

Let the one of a kind property of Briar Barns transform your special day into a one of a kind experience for you and your guests. Built in the 1870’s the history of this property is felt the moment you pull into the driveway. From the white wrap around porch of the farmhouse to the distressed metal roof of the barn, this property is full of uniqueness you won’t find anywhere else.

This venue was absolutely everything I’ve ever dreamed of and more! It’s beautiful and had plenty of space for everything we wanted. We had a mobile bar, wood fired pizza oven, and an ice cream stand with plenty of room. We had many places to take photos and have a first look with my husband and dad. We also had a few outdoor games! The owners helped us out all day long as well and they were too kind. We’re so blessed. Thank you for making my dreams come true.
Elizabeth D., 15 days ago
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Frederik Meijer Gardens & Sculpture Park 

5.0

Grand Rapids, MI
  • Up to 2500 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $1,500

With a 158-acre main campus featuring gorgeous gardens and an internationally acclaimed sculpture collection, this picturesque venue offers an award-winning professional events team to assist you, distinctive architectural design, and exclusive in-house catering and bar services.

We eloped and had a small, private reception approximately a month later with family and friends at Frederik Meijer Gardens. I cannot say enough amazing things about them. They went above and beyond, exceeded expectations, and the reception was beautiful and so much fun! I would highly recommend them for any wedding (or party) activities.
Jennifer M., 3 months ago
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Camp Newaygo 

5.0

Newaygo, MI
  • Up to 280 guests
  • All-inclusive
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $1,000

Camp Newaygo is an all girls resident summer camp, which has been around since 1925. During the times we do not have campers on site we specialize in weddings and events in our three gorgeous lodges, which offer rustic charm with all the modern amenities. Groups of all sizes are welcome, from more intimate gatherings to larger ones (up to 280 guests). Not only can you be married in a beautiful location, but you can add fun activities on to your weekend to create lasting memories with your friends and family. Try zip lining or rock wall climbing!

I own Sounds "R" us dj and event services and can strongly say that camp newaygo and their staff take great pride in their facility and every aspect of the venue setting. Their catering is top notch. I would highly recommend camp newaygo.
Tim Bitson, 4 years ago
New Vintage Place 

4.7

Grand Rapids, MI
  • Up to 300 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $10,000

This West Side landmark, with its 150-foot iconic smokestack, has been transformed into an event destination like no other in Grand Rapids. Towering historical windows, original exposed brick and structural steel, and soaring open-architecture ceilings recall the bygone days of America’s Gilded Age. With two distinct, expansive, and column-free reception spaces, cocktail lounge, outdoor amphitheater and courtyard, and abundant FREE on-site parking, New Vintage Place is the ideal venue for any event requiring a unique character that will leave an unforgettable impression.

I thought this place was beautiful and I was really excited to get married here. I love that they have a bridal and groom suite. It made it easier to make sure everyone was there. However, it made the day really stressful on how strict they are with getting access to the venue. It really cuts the day in half because most hair and make up people won’t start at one location and move to another like the venue for example. We couldn’t get access to the venue until noon unless we paid extra which we already were paying a lot for the venue and all the extras if we wanted. That made the day the most stressful, it was hard to enjoy the getting ready process. Otherwise overall I had so many compliments on how beautiful the venue was.
Crystal S., a year ago
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New Hotel Mertens 
Grand Rapids, MI
  • Up to 225 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $4,000

Located in the historic Mertens Hotel in the heart of Grand Rapids, Mertens Prime offers an elegant and timeless setting for your celebration. Our venue combines the charm of classic architecture with modern amenities, ensuring that your wedding is as unique and memorable as you’ve always imagined. Our Rooftop space provides a breathtaking backdrop with panoramic views of the city, perfect for a stunning ceremony or an unforgettable reception under the stars. Whether you envision an intimate gathering or a grand affair, our dedicated team is here to bring your vision to life, ensuring every detail reflects your personal style and love story. We pride ourselves on delivering exceptional service, exquisite cuisine & an ambiance that will leave a lasting impression on you and your guests. Our experienced event coordinator will work closely with you to customize every aspect of your wedding, from menu selections to décor, ensuring that your day is everything you’ve dreamed of and more.

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Country Barn Estates "The White Barn" 

5.0

Henderson, MI
  • Up to 550 guests
  • Raw space
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $2,500

A newly established facility, the White Barn at Country Barn Estates is centrally located in Henderson, Michigan which is less than one hour northwest of Lansing. Situated on 20 acres in a beautiful farming community with rolling hills and sweeping farmland. The White Barn is the largest facility in the region with professional staff and an absolutely wonderful indoor/outdoor environment which delights your guests. Allow your guests to capture silly and fun moments while at your event with the 360 Photo Booth that is provided with each rental.

We recently had our wedding here. The white barn was amazing. We had over 250 people which this barn accommodated up to 550! There were bridal and groom suites to get ready in. We did the full weekend package and were able to stay in the house on-site which made things a lot easier for the bridal party. Bonnie, the coordinator, was amazing to work with. She was super responsive and always answered any of our concerns. We got so many complaints about how gorgeous the grounds were and they are pet friendly! I definitely recommend Country Barn Estates!!
Jackie and G., 2 years ago
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Grand Rapids Downtown Market 
Grand Rapids, MI
  • Up to 180 guests
  • Select services
  • Outdoor

Your dream wedding will happen here. From our breathtaking scenery and views of downtown Grand Rapids to our exclusive catering options, our venue has the space and amenities you need for a memorable day. Our building is simple and modern, making it the perfect canvas for your wedding reception or ceremony. Our fun, collaborative, and hard-working events team coordinates 70+ wedding celebrations annually, so they know exactly how important your big day is. They will treat you with individuality, respect, and compassion to create unforgettable moments that you will cherish for years to come. If you are looking for something unique for your guests to do in between your ceremony and reception, they can head downstairs to explore our 20+ indoor Market vendors. The Downtown Market is the perfect place to host your wedding - come check it out!

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Bissell Tree House at John Ball Zoo 

5.0

Grand Rapids, MI
  • Up to 180 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $3,500

Located in Grand Rapids, Michigan at the John Ball Zoo, the Bissell Tree House is one of West Michigan’s most unique event spaces. This hidden gem provides couples an amazing view of the downtown Grand Rapids area with its floor-to-ceiling glass windows. With its tree house feel and large covered veranda sitting at one of Grand Rapids' highest land points, couples can get that sense of being on top of the world as they share their love with family and friends. All proceeds benefit the conservation missions and animals of John Ball Zoo!

Gorgeous venue - we got so many compliments! We highly recommend this scenic and affordable venue!
Clare C., 2 years ago
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Grand Ledge Opera House 
Grand Ledge, MI
  • Up to 240 guests
  • Raw space
  • Indoor & outdoor

The historic Grand Ledge Opera House is the perfect location for weddings, receptions, holiday parties, special banquets, balls, reunions, and business meetings with ample free parking. It is located in downtown Grand Ledge alongside the Grand River. Our office hours are Monday through Friday from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM. Evening and weekend tours can be arranged by special appointment. The building which is situated in downtown Grand Ledge on a beautifully landscaped area along the Grand River provides a picturesque setting for weddings, receptions, large gatherings, and community events. The Grand Hall on the main level and the Terrace Level with its large outdoor patio area and grounds are available to rent separately or as a single package to fit your needs.

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August Hill Venue 

5.0

Harrison, MI
  • Up to 155 guests
  • Select services
  • Outdoor
  • Starts at $800

Our goal is to provide an elegant but rustic space where you can create your dream wedding while having time to make memories with family and friends. We cater to personal, intimate gatherings with a focus on slowing down and enjoying your event. We also aim to provide a space where everyone feels welcome, at a price point that is attainable for the average couple. Located in Harrison, Michigan, August Hill is situated in one of Clare Counties oldest farming communities.

Awarded Best of Zola
My experiences with August Hill have all been great. They are very easy to work with, great communication, friendly, great response time and very accommodating. I look forward to working with them in the future.
Dynasty Entertainment, 2 years ago
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Eagle Eye Golf Club 
Bath, MI
  • Up to 550 guests
  • All-inclusive
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $5,000

Eagle Eye Golf Club is a beautiful country-club wedding venue located in Bath, MI. This sprawling property features a manicured 18-hole golf course, stunning natural scenery, and an array of event spaces. Here, couples can create a luxurious wedding celebration with the assistance of the venue’s experienced staff. Eagle Eye Golf Club aims to provide for all event needs, allowing you to stage the day of your dreams. For those who wish to wed outdoors, the venue offers the idyllic Wedding Garden. With green grass, pruned shrubs and flowers providing a natural perimeter, this park-like setting is ideal for saying “I do”. Up to 500 guests can be comfortably accommodated here with a theater-style seating plan. A podium, wedding arbor, and portable PA system can be provided by the venue for your convenience. The extensive Veranda is a picturesque spot to host a relaxed cocktail hour. Guests can admire the stunning scenery while lounging on the patio furniture.

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Creekside Gathering Place 

5.0

Laingsburg, MI
  • Up to 20 guests
  • All-inclusive
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $3,750

Creekside Gathering Place offers a soul-nurturing place of retreat for weddings and special events in the rural setting of Laingsburg, Michigan. With indoor and outdoor facilities, you can host the wedding of your dreams at Creekside Gathering Place. We offer a a variety of wedding packages from fully planned to do it yourself. We want to ensure that your celebration runs smoothly and is memorable for everyone. For quaint wedding gatherings surrounded by the beauty of nature, this spot could be the venue for you.

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Our time at Creekside Gathering Place was wonderful! There were lovely fresh flower arrangements, comfortable, cozy spaces to relax and a kitchen full of treats. The entire space and property were ours to use and enjoy. The wedding coordinator was easy to communicate with and made our big day so very special. I had nothing to worry about as every detail was taken care of in advance. Our guests also kept commenting on how perfect the venue was. Thanks Creekside!!!
Carly J., 2 years ago
Michigan Wildlife Conservancy 

5.0

Bath, MI
  • Up to 350 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor

○ Three Trees:​ Guests are able to watch from the covered patio, or sit in the available white ceremony chairs and benches. ○ Labyrinth​: Walk along the two paths as you greet your guests along the way. ○ Gazebo: Lush green trees surround a gazebo placed in front of a grassy area for guests ○ Meadow: This peaceful clearing provides the perfect cozy spot for a ceremony. With a nearby path to the meadow overlook deck ○ Conservation Hall, complete with a full kitchen prep area for caterers, opens up to a 3,600 sq. ft. glass covered patio overlooking the water ○ Clear, lighted curtains drop down in rainy or windy weather ○ The Anderson Great Hall transforms into the perfect Bridal Suite featuring vaulted two-story ceilings, a stone fireplace and leather furniture ○ tables and chairs make the space perfect for hair and makeup ○ Enjoy breathtaking views from the second story partial wrap-around deck Covered patio allows for use in any weather ○ Perfect for cocktail hour and appetizers

As soon as we toured this venue for our wedding we were hooked. Not only is it a beautiful venue the personnel were amazing to work with. Everyone was very helpful and friendly.
Kalin, 10 months ago
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Gardenview Barn 

5.0

Byron Center, MI
  • Up to 150 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $4,000

Situated in a private rural setting in Byron Center, MI, the Garden View Barn is West Michigan's premier wedding and event venue. This property offers gorgeous gardens on the grounds that make for a stunning ceremony site and offer breathtaking photo backdrops. The beautiful wrought iron gazebo serves as a focal point of your ceremony.

The venue is absolutely amazing! It's so gorgeous and private! Diane and her husband are both just amazing people! They were so flexible with us and made set up so easy! The garden alone is a show stopper but that chandelier in the barn is the icing on the top of the cake for me! We didn't even hardly add any decorations to the barn because of its natural beauty. I would 1000% recommend this venue to absolutely anyone. For the price, it's the best experience I could have imagined for my wedding day!
Madison Z., a month ago
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Lansing Brewing Company 
Lansing, MI
  • Up to 240 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor

Searching for a wedding venue that combines the charm of tradition with the boldness of something uniquely yours? Lansing Brewing Company (LBC) is the perfect place to say “I do.” Located in the heart of downtown Lansing, our historic brewery offers a distinctive setting that’s as one-of-a-kind as your love story. Celebrate in a space that blends industrial chic with modern amenities, surrounded by warm character, gleaming brewing tanks, and the lively energy of a working brewery. Whether you envision an intimate gathering or a larger celebration, LBC provides customizable layouts to fit the size and style of your special day. Our experienced event team is dedicated to making your wedding planning process effortless and enjoyable, guiding you every step of the way from the initial booking to the final dance of the night. At LBC, we pride ourselves on delivering exceptional service that exceeds expectations, with personalized touches that reflect your unique style.

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Woldumar Nature Center 

4.5

Lansing, MI
  • Up to 150 guests
  • Select services
  • Indoor & outdoor
  • Starts at $2,750

Choosing Woldumar for your Lansing wedding venue will not only provide a beautiful and unforgettable experience for you and your guests, but also will support our nonprofit environmental education efforts - giving you one more reason to smile on your wedding day! Our beautifully maintained grounds are available for your guests to explore, several outdoor locations are superb settings for a memorable ceremony, and the RE Olds Anderson Rotary Barn is a one-of-a-kind rustic venue for your celebratory reception. Imagine your unforgettable Wedding Ceremony held in a beautiful outdoor venue among the enchanting, natural settings found at Woldumar!

Having our wedding at Woldumar was SO, SO special!!! We took the risk of having an August 10 wedding in their barn with no A/C...and we were rewarded with beautiful 70 degree weather. One of their exhaust fans was broken, but they purchased window fans and an industrial fan to keep the air moving. Definitely not an issue for us given our incredible weather, but I was a little nervous in the lead-up. Victoria was SO EASY to work with, I cannot sing her praises enough. From booking until wedding day, she was right there with us. She had fantastic advice on vendors and ceremony details that made things go so smoothly (walking across the bridge was the best idea EVER). The golf cart photo tour was AWESOME, too! My husband and I are very outdoorsy, so it was fun to spend so much time outside on our big day. You can tell the Woldumar staff put a lot of love into their grounds. We got so many compliments on how beautiful everything was! It was truly the perfect venue for us. We didn't even need much decor because the barn and ceremony space are so beautiful on their own. We didn't purchase day-before or day-after barn access which made things a little chaotic. I recommend getting the day-after cleaning, as we were in a mad rush to get things cleaned before midnight on wedding day. The security guard was also very rude during clean up. I'd pay extra to not have to deal with him again... All in all, great venue for the outdoorsy couple! We loved being able to choose all of our own vendors, too. We felt like we had so much creative control, which we wouldn't have gotten at a full-service venue. It's also so comforting to know our money went to a nature center. Much better than a golf course, at least in my opinion!
Emma R., a month ago

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About wedding venues in Mcbrides, MI

How much do wedding venues typically cost in Mcbrides, MI?

The cost of a wedding venue varies widely by location, number of guests, and many other details of the wedding package. Mcbrides, MI offers a range of options that can fit most budgets. Raw venue space rentals (which only include the space itself) start at $3,000 and average $3,800. All-inclusive packages start at $1,500 and average $4,000.

What types of venues can I find in Mcbrides, MI?

Mcbrides offers a wide range of venues, including Ballroom, Urban and Park and garden.

What are some of the best wedding and reception venues available in Mcbrides, MI?

Some of the most popular venues in this area include Grand Rapids Downtown Market, Port 393 and Bissell Tree House at John Ball Zoo. But just like finding "the one," finding the perfect wedding venue takes time and a little bit of magic. Start by envisioning your dream wedding - the ambiance, style, and location. Then, explore our extensive collection of carefully curated wedding venues. Our marketplace provides detailed information, stunning photos, and real couples' reviews to help you make an informed decision. Trust your instincts, and when you find that venue that gives you butterflies, you'll know it's the one.

What questions should I ask when booking a venue in Mcbrides, MI?

It all depends on what you're looking for, but you may want to consider things like whether the venue has an on-site bridal suite (75% in Mcbrides do) or whether the venue provides an event coordinator (49% in Mcbrides do!).

Additionally, some venues work with certain caterers and require a minimum food and beverage spend in addition to the space rentals. Others might have a recommended list of preferred caterers that they'd like you to work with.

Can the venues in Mcbrides, MI accommodate both small and large weddings?

Of course! Small wedding venues in Mcbrides, MI can host intimate parties while large venues can accommodate up to 2500. The average venue in Mcbrides can seat 152 guests.

What amenities do the reception venues in Mcbrides, MI offer?

The venues in Mcbrides, MI are known for the exceptional suite of services and amenities offered to couples and their wedding parties. The most common services provided are Wheelchair accessible, Dance floor and Wi-Fi. Some venues even offer Transportation!

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