Major changes are happening in downtown Marshall as the long-vacant building at 112 N. Eagle Street transforms. The new Venue 19 Zero 9, named after Schuler’s founding year in 1909, will occupy the historic Dreamers Furniture store, blending Schuler’s legacy with modern elegance for weddings, corporate events, and special occasions. The venue will feature a reception room for 250 guests, intimate seating areas, bridal quarters, large restrooms, and three boutique hotel rooms. Schuler’s Restaurant will provide exclusive catering for exceptional culinary experiences.

Port 393 is a luxury event space in Holland, MI. We have a customizable floor plan and even a rooftop where you and your guests can witness views of Lake Macatawa. Port 393 has a main level reception space with a full bar and catering kitchen, along with a second floor containing a cocktail hour area, full bar & garage door access to the sky view rooftop lounge. Port 393 has a list of catering partners for every event, within every price range making it easy to find amazing vendors! Port 393 is currently booking weddings on Thursday - Sunday. Port 393 has availability for showers, parties, rehearsal and so much more on weekdays as well! Our Offerings: 🥂 Exclusive use of the whole building for the whole day 🥂 Top-of-the-line audio & visual systems 🥂 In house rentals for your convenience 🥂 Access to our proprietary online Guest Portal! 🥂 On-site ceremonies (with 1 hour complimentary rehearsal time) 🥂 Two luxury built in bars 🥂Getting Ready Cove House

The Bangor Elevator has a rich local history, and it continues with each event that unfolds within its 140 year old walls. Your story becomes our story, and a little bit of ours becomes yours too! Sweet house traditions and hand crafted details make The Bangor Elevator a delight for you and your guests to explore. Three and four-story vaulted peaks with hand hewn beams provide a perfect palette for any decor. Floor length ivory linens and draping on each aisle post dress The Bangor up beautifully with little effort, and thousands of led lights twinkle overhead. Both awesome and cozy, rustic and elegant, unique and befitting a most memorable occasion, you will simply be charmed. It's just that lovely. Come and see us, we promise it's worth the trip.

We believe every great event actually begins in the parking lot. First impressions matter! Those earliest moments help set the tone of your event and your guests’ expectations. That’s why we have designed the entire South Haven Creations experience with you and your guests in mind. Our landscaping and design choices, neutral color palette, high-end fixtures, and thoughtful accessories create the perfect, elegant backdrop for your ultimate event.

Get married under a Cathederal of Trees in our Fairy Garden or Classic Pergola. Stonegate Manor is a quiet, elegant, garden estate located between St. Joseph's beach community and Benton Harbor's art district. Lake Michigan is 7 minutes across the street! The moment you enter through the stone gates you will see all the natural beauty and the lovingly restored Victorian Manor House built in 1847. Start your day as early as 8am in the charming carriage house. You have the luxury of two reception spaces; the outdoor Estate Tent and indoor (air conditioned) Riverside Room. End your wedding dancing under a spectacular glow of hundreds of string lights! For more inspiration and a complete list of amenities visit our website, stonegate manor events.

Begin the first day of the rest of your life with the Inn at Harbor Shores. Our large ballroom can accommodate groups up to 280 for wedding receptions, however, our versatile space lets us do wedding receptions anywhere from 80-280 guests! We do all of our own in house catering as well! Guest room blocks are also available, taking the worry out of where your guests are going to stay for your wedding night. . PC: B Graves Photography, Avery Kate Photography, Gia Photos, Danielle Leeanna Photo, Breanne Rochelle Photography, Maiko Media, Erika Christine Photography, Patty Lenor Photography, Niven Weddings

Discover Aria at The Whitcomb, a charming vintage-style wedding and event venue nestled in downtown Saint Joseph, Michigan. Our venue spaces boast breathtaking views of Lake Michigan and stunning beach sunsets, making it an idyllic setting for your special day. Choose from our three distinct venues - Veranda, Garden, and Rooftop - each providing an exceptional ambiance for both your ceremony and reception. Conveniently located, Aria at The Whitcomb offers easy access to numerous restaurants, hotels, beaches, shops, and other attractions.

Shadowland is the perfect location for destination beach weddings and receptions in Southwest Michigan. Our venue accommodates everything from small intimate gatherings to large weddings with plenty of offerings to delight your guests as they share in your special day. Shadowland’s simple yet elegant décor lets you create the ambience you want for your wedding, special occasion, business meeting or event. And our unique offerings as part of the Silver Beach Center let you entertain your guests with beverages on the Sunset Patio overlooking the lighted Whirlpool Compass Fountain, delight them with rides on the magnificent, hand-carved Silver Beach Carousel or explore the world with the Curious Kids’ Discovery Zone.

Since 1830, this church has been a foundation of this community as the first and oldest recorded church within the quaint beach town of St. Joseph, Michigan. Now, we are opening our venue up to the community for booking weddings! Our rental fee for the ceremony space of $1385 includes: rental of the venue (indoor sanctuary/outdoor courtyard), officiant services, wedding coordinator, custodial services, and premarital counseling materials, and rehearsal time ($100 additional if you plan to serve food at the rehearsal). If the sanctuary is rented, the price also includes a computer operator/pianist & audio tech to run the sound system. The fellowship hall rental for reception is an additional $400-$500 ($400 M-F/$500 Sat-Sun).

-BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION - FULL IN-HOUSE AMENITIES - Gone are the days of conventional, rustic weddings. At Être Farms, you’ll find we have elevated the concept of a “Barn Wedding” to align with the expectations of modern Couples. Within our luxury venue, you’ll find a sweeping event space that maintains a Crisp+Clean aesthetic with a Modern Twist! Planning is easy with our in-house Event Coordinators, Designers, Executive Chef, Sommelier, and Florist. You can be as involved in the planning as much or as little as you desire. Set your status as a couple with Etre Farms.

We are pleased to introduce the newest event center in Southwest Michigan. Welcome to the Red Brick Hall Historic Event Center. The creators, Jeff and Jessica have worked hard to bring this historic space back to life with its amazing wood floors, huge windows, amazing 7-foot chandelier, and gorgeous entry that has transformed this space into a one-of-a-kind historic venue! Dependable service is at the foundation of every great Red Brick Hall event. Our dedicated and detail-oriented venue staff guarantee the success of your special occasion by providing personalized Catering services that meet and exceed expectations. Red Brick Hall elevates any event with a variety of Catering options to perfectly complement your celebration.

Located in the small town of Cassopolis, MI. The very first barn style wedding venue that is the perfect combination of elegance and rustic charm. What started out as a pipe dream led to something completely unexpected as we worked hard to achieve something we never thought possible. We picked the name “ Marion Magnolia Farms.” As we thought of both of our daughters and named it after them as Marion and Magnolia are their middle names. We are excited to present our dream to not only our small, hometown community but to the many others surrounding us. We hope to help the other small businesses here flourish.

Located just South of Allegan in West Michigan, The Silo is the perfect location to host your big day! Your guests will experience “Elegance in the Country” as they enjoy unsurpassed quality and gracious amenities in a gorgeous big red barn situated on over 20 acres of pristine country-side. Our vaulted ceilings and panoramic windows are the perfect backdrop for an exquisite evening of celebration with family and friends. From the historic grounds to our rustic barn-style building it is no wonder The Silo has been heralded as "one of Michigan's most loved wedding venues."

North Lake Weddings & Events is a family owned wedding venue located in Berrien Springs, Michigan. ​Overlooking 40 acres, you and your guests are invited to enjoy spacious accommodations, endless privacy, breathtaking views & an unforgettable sunset. Rain or Shine, your day will be a dream come true! 400-person capacity venue featuring indoor/outdoor ceremony options, a full bridal suite with a private restroom, groom quarters & more.

Ivy House was started by Candice Grant, and her husband Brian in 2021. The owners love for Saugatuck, its people, its food and its experiences drew them to open a venue here! Most of our on site venue tours are done by the owners, as they have a hands on approach to managing their venue and connecting with their clients! Ivy House’s purpose is to be a space where everyone is welcome to celebrate! Whether you are looking to put a ring on it, acknowledge a milestone or meet with your team - we would love to be your gathering place! Ivy House sits on a spacious 7 acres. The property contains the brand new reception space, a greenhouse, two suites, a large outdoor cocktail area and covered patio! LOCATION: Saugatuck, Michigan VIBES: Classic Fresh White, Abundant Greenery, Moody Bar and Features, High End Experiences & Unique Spaces ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS: Round Tables, Wooden Cross Back Chairs, Bountiful Greenery, Wide Open Spaces & Outdoor Seating

Located in Saugatuck, Michigan The Cottage at Ravines is nestled amidst a 500-Acre Arnold Palmer championship golf course in a scenery of rolling fairways, a forest of Michigan Pines, colorful Maple trees, and impeccably curated lawns creating a gorgeous setting for your dream wedding. Ravines offer an elegant and modern venue with picturesque views of the golf course. The Michigan pine and colorful maple trees create an extraordinary rustic-country ambiance, while the indoor banquet hall boasts high ceilings, picture windows, and French doors. For a gorgeous indoor or outdoor setting for your special event, wedding or shower, look no further than the Cottage at Ravines.

We welcome you to The Lincoln Event Center. Our venue was originally a one room schoolhouse built sometime in the 1860's as The Blackman School. Later, as rural schools consolidated, the school was expanded in 1938 into a two room schoolhouse. We are excited to be able to continue to preserve its history and share the space again with the community. Elevate your next event with our elegant vintage space!

We specialize in the most unique events for every milestone! No matter where you are in life, let us help you create the experience that's talked about for a lifetime.

Built in 1928, as an Elks Temple, this property has been beautifully restored and renovated, while keeping its original character and charm. Climate-controlled for all-season events, on-site tables and Chiavari chairs are included for up to 200. Enjoy the flexibility of using cater of choice, and the freedom to bring in your own beverages and spirits.

The Barn at Monterey Valley is nestled between the beautiful rolling hills of Monterey Township on 80 private acres. Formally a fruit farm the property has been in the Dendel family for over 150 years. Just a few minutes west of US 131 the property is conveniently located between Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo, Michigan. This tranquil location, full of nature and beautiful landscaping provides the perfect backdrop for memories to be made.

Millennium Catering & Events, in partnership with Western Michigan University Fetzer Center, offers full-service catering for weddings, conferences, and events of all sizes. Our professional staff is committed to creating an unforgettable experience for every group we serve. From menu creation to conference room set-up, we provide all the necessary assistance for a successful event. With a stunning garden patio, banquet hall, and atrium-style lobby - we are confident in creating the ideal setting for your conference, meeting, or special occasion. Trust our team of professionals to provide a customized menu, tailored to your specific preferences, requirements and budget. We are versatile.

Tying the Knot Wedding is a Venue like no other. If you're looking to host an event that radiates passion, enthusiasm, distinction and love, you have found the space designed personally for you. We at Tying the Knot Weddings specialize in hosting gorgeous weddings and have quickly become one of Michiana's Best Wedding Venues through their every detail, customer service and wide range of knowledge in all things Weddings. We truly understand that each Event is different and will require specifics, something we are more than happy to accommodate, as far as we possibly can. Over the years, we have perfected our Venue so that it holds everything, to the smallest detail, that you could possibly want for your Event, including Weddings.

Baker Events is full of charm and urban elegance! This iconic Holland landmark, formerly Baker Furniture Warehouse, has been renovated into a gorgeous event space featuring exposed brick walls with contemporary touches that can accommodate up to 300 guests. Baker Events is Hollands premier wedding venue. Full service food and beverage menus are available through Gilmore Catering and can be customized to fit your event and budget.

The Kalamazoo Loft is a warm and inviting wedding venue. Situated in the city's downtown area, this property is on the second floor of the famous historic Kalamazoo Building. With a lovely event space, groom and bride themed ready rooms and friendly staff, you and your guests will surely have a great time celebrating! Facilities and Capacity Besides ceremonies and receptions, at The Kalamazoo Loft, you can host a range of nuptial events, including wedding showers, rehearsal dinners, and engagement parties. Whether your celebration is an intimate affair or a large gathering of up to 115 guests, this venue can accommodate it. With over 5,000 square feet of versatile event space, you will be able to tailor this loft to fit your desired vision. It boasts a minimalistic yet stylish decor with light-colored flooring and walls, perfect for any wedding theme. The property also features a bar where loved ones can get their refreshing drinks, as well as a kitchen area for caterers.

The Wedding Studio at Radisson Plaza Hotel & Suites in downtown Kalamazoo handles everything. Throughout the entire process, our experienced professionals are right by your side, helping you plan, review, select, organize, and coordinate, right down to the very last detail. Relax, leave it all to us, and enjoy the most important day of your lives.

Boatwerks is conveniently located just minutes from downtown Holland on picturesque Lake Macatawa. Choose one of our elegant rooms or reserve them all for a truly grand waterfront event! The retractable wall of windows to our courtyard provides an open-air feeling that Boatwerks has become known for. All rooms include built-in projectors and screens and audio equipment. Experience the food, service, and ambiance that only Boatwerks can provide!

Holland Civic Center Place has a long tradition of being the primary facility for accommodating a wide variety of events in the Holland area. It is located at 150 West 8th Street, Holland MI 49423. In addition to an ideal downtown location, the facility has the kind of flexibility to handle large and small gatherings. Some of the events that take place at the Holland Civic Center Place on an annual basis are as follows: corporate meetings/banquets, weddings, public expos, local festivals, reunions groups, graduation ceremonies, basketball games, civic group meetings, recreation activities, concerts, theatrical productions and much more. Weddings are one of our employee and client favorites, as we have a space for just about anything a dreaming bride and groom can think of!

Our event space is perfect for your small to mid size event. Seating for 64 during formal seated dinners, 110 for your intimate wedding ceremony, or up to 180 in a standing room only. The use of tables and chairs is included in our base price, which will makes pricing out your event easy and seamless! We also allow food prepared in a licensed Kitchen to help fit into your budget. The space is attached to a fully stocked bar for all of your beverage needs, and can be closed off for your private moments.

Breathtaking floor to ceiling windows, refinished hardwood floors, handmade farm tables, gold charivari chairs, 8' tall chandelier, built-in custom bar, exposed brick and wood beams & private rooms for your bridal party. 19 North is a gorgeous 11,000 sqft venue located above Froehlich's charming Kitchen & Pantry restaurant. With the original wood floors and over 800 tin ceiling tiles still intact and beautifully restored, this space embodies a rustic opulence that offers couples the feel of a big city event in a quaint village. At the top of the grand staircase in the all-glass foyer, guests will find a tall corridor, flanked by two sets of massive, 12 foot turn-of-the-century doors, leading to a grand ballroom, complete with a show-stopping chandelier.

Four Points by Sheraton Kalamazoo is a unique wedding venue perfect for an intimate ceremony and reception for you and your loved ones in Kalamazoo, Michigan. They provide a comfortable atmosphere with superb service and style, allowing you to fully enjoy your day with the logistics handled by their talented staff. This ballroom and hotel has a modern city style and on-site catering services, making planning hassle-free. They provide you the ease of knowing every detail is taken care of with a complimentary event consultation.

At Gillespie Conference Center we believe that perfect weddings & events don’t just happen; they are planned and serviced to perfection! Let our staff of professionals with their years of experience work with you to transform your wedding day dreams into a reality! Guiding you through every step of the planning process from curating a custom menu created by our in-house culinary team to hand selecting specialty drinks. We take care of the details from assisting you in finding trusted vendors in our area to designing your room layout.

We are an event center which provides a full range of social, and business catering services in a beautiful natural setting, overlooking one of the area's loveliest golf courses. The venue occupies a colonial cape cod building especially designed for its unique needs. The space provides an airy country club ambiance featuring large open vistas overlooking two of the prettiest golf holes in Michiana.

Please email us directly. We are not monitoring messages on Zola. Thank you! If cookie-cutter isn't your thing and you're looking for a Pinterest-worthy wedding venue you can make your own, you've found it. R&R was designed to accommodate your unique style. Romantic, industrial, rustic, vintage, or chic - the sky is truly the limit. Speaking of limits - our couples aren't limited to a required vendor list. But don't worry, we can definitely share some wedding pro's we think you'll love if you need help getting started. From the day you visit for the very first time, to your send-off at the end of the night our team is here to support you. From our R&R Planning Guide to our regular open houses and private online community. Our website is completely transparent with our current prices, everything we include and much more! Photographers Featured: LeAh Photography, LouieBelleraweddings, Jill Devries Photography, Jessi Lynn Photography

Macatawa Golf Club provides everything you need for your special day, from a beautiful outdoor ceremony location to a full-service reception venue. Our newly remodeled reception space consists of the entire top level of the clubhouse which overlooks the golf course and some spectacular summer sunsets. Contact us to receive more information on ceremonies, receptions, bridal showers, and other wedding-related events at Macatawa Golf Club.

The Hall at Saint Peter's is a charming church and banquet hall wedding venue located in South Bend, IN. This versatile establishment offers elegant event spaces and superior services for those seeking to wed in style and comfort. The site’s sanctuary is the ideal setting for a traditional wedding ceremony. Featuring wooden pews, a large altar, intimate lighting, and a large ceiling. The Hall is an open event space that makes for memorable receptions. Similar to the sanctuary, the hall features high-ceilings and a staging area for the head table to sit and movies unforgettable speeches. Your guests can enjoy the warm summer nights or the cool crisp air of Spring and Fall under perfectly set bistro lights within the Biergarten located directly outside the main doors. Continue the mood of the reception space with customizable LED uplighting in the buffet and beverage/bar space with an updated modern look.

From its historical beginnings as a stoic munitions depot, The Armory experienced a beautiful transformation to showcase a sophisticated ballroom, classy built-in bar and impressive commercial kitchen. Original element of the 1928 Armory construction and subsequent Newman Recreations Center were incorporated into the even space renovation to provide the perfect blend of past and present.Iron-barred doors used to secure armers and thick concrete walls reinforced with brick to accommodate the National Guard Armory and shooting range lend a rustic industrial aesthetic. Wood from the recreation center bleachers line the dramatic bar and the orginial hardwood floor was dressed up to grace the ballroom. The vaulted timber ceilings and exposed truss work allow the dazzling period chandeliers an opportunity to lend an air of elegance to the urban decor. Charm abounds in the union of classic architecture with a modern flair.

The Palais Royale at the Morris Performing Arts Center has long been home to landmark events and lavish galas. We leave no stone unturned as we prepare the ballroom for one-of-a-kind weddings and other events that redefine luxury. The Palais Royale is an exceptional Downtown South Bend venue with capacity for up to 500 people, and it transfixes all who see it. Make the ballroom the setting for your next special event, and experience the tradition that is the Palais Royale.

Breeze in to Aloft South Bend and experience our urban inspired hotel in downtown South Bend with 187 guestrooms and suites plus nearly 6,000 square feet of event space. Enjoy the views of downtown from this 6th floor space with floor to ceiling windows and seating for up to 250. Ask about our wedding packages. Have a reception venue, but still need a rehearsal dinner, we've got you covered. Allow your guests to sip pints and pinot noirs without the worry by booking a block of guest rooms with us! Aloft South Bend has you covered.

Built by Clem Studebaker from 1886 - 1889, the Tippecanoe Place mansion has a rich and colorful history. Today, the restaurant indulges clientele in grand cuisine and noble wine - all within an atmosphere of unparalleled ambiance at the heart of the South Bend business and catering scene. We strive to offer our guests the best service for unforgettable celebrations and it is with the help of our most trusted partners that we’re able to deliver such amazing special events!

Matterhorn is a highly versatile venue suitable for both large-scale and intimate celebrations. The space is a timeless blend of charm and modern amenities. It’s chic décor and spacious floor plan add to the sophisticated aesthetic and flexible atmosphere, inviting guests to dream big and add their own bit of flair to the occasion. Established in 1977, Matterhorn has become one of Elkhart’s most treasured and long-standing venues. The expansive building features three separate banquet halls, all of which can be combined to accommodate larger gatherings. The East Room is the venue’s smallest space and provides a cozy setting for up to 80 people. The helpful staff can easily join the East, Oak, and West Rooms into a combination that best suits the desired needs and capacity. Linking all three rooms allows for a large dance floor and gives 500 guests ample room to mix and mingle.

Chicory Event Center is a new renovated event space in downtown Mishawaka. It features a main banquet room with seating up to 250, a private dining room with seating up to 25, and a Chicory Cafe with an beautiful outside patio. The main banquet room features a beautiful bar with barn doors, coffee bar, dance floor, and a chandelier. This room is perfect for your wedding reception, class reunion, birthday party, sweet sixteen party, retirement party, business conference, or networking event. Tables, chairs, table linen, chinaware, table center pieces, set up, and clean up are all included in room rental. Our private dining room features numerous table layouts, 70 inch television, A/V equipment, and available table service. Tables, chairs, table linen, chinaware, set up, clean up, use of A/V equipment, and table center pieces are all included in room rental.

The LEX 530 building was once the home of Pacemaker Trailer Co., one of the earliest RV companies in Elkhart. In the fall of 2018 owners Carl and Emilie Tiedemann took part of the building to create LEX 530. Our couples can count on our event director for dedication to making every event picture perfect. Our executive chef brings his incredible palate and creativity to everything he touches utilizing a licensed commercial kitchen to create anything from the perfect breakfast to an 5-course dinner using only the freshest ingredients around. LEX 530 specializes in offering unique boutique wines that our couples will not find any other place in Indiana. Carl makes his own line of boutique wines in Napa Valley and brings that wine back to Elkhart to sell at LEX 530. His numerous connections to small, independent winemakers in Napa, and around the world, allow LEX 530 access to exclusive wines. All of this will make your wedding stand out.

Whether you’re planning a wedding, meeting or a family gathering, you can book your special event at Ribbon Town Conference and Event Center. With over 24,000 square feet of meeting space, no event is too large or small. This versatile space includes a pillar-free 8,800 square foot ballroom divisible into 3 sections plus an additional 16 conference rooms. Ribbon offers the unique experience to dine, relax, and meet all in one location. The venue is conveniently located along US 31, just minutes from South Bend International Airport.

If you want spectacular views, professional staff, and incredible cuisine on your wedding day, look no further than Gull Lake Country Club. From intimate lakefront ceremonies to large, elegant dinners, Gull Lake Country Club offers an unparalleled wedding experience from start to finish. The Lakeview Room's panoramic views of Gull Lake, private outdoor patio and room for outdoor seating make it one of the most sought after venues in all of Southwest Michigan! The Lakeview Room is located in the Clubhouse and holds approximately 265 people. Lakeside tented receptions with cocktail hour at our Lakeside Pavilion are also an option with room for groups of up to 300.

The gorgeous ballroom features elaborate crystal chandeliers, elegant draperies, state of the art audiovisual technology, and a balcony overlooking the quaint cityscape of Elkhart below. The stately space boasts 18-22-foot ceilings embellished with ornate moldings and trim throughout. The exquisite atmosphere, culinary excellence, and stellar service perfectly combine to enchant guests of all ages. The Crystal Ballroom is suitable for large banquets, weddings, and business conferences, and can even be partitioned to accommodate smaller events. Alive with charm and grace, the ballroom is the perfect host for any occasion.

Sunnybrook is conveniently located in Grandville, off 196 and M-6. With open floor plans and ceiling to floor windows, each newly updated space provides breathtaking views of the golf course. Exclusive private patio space comes included with every room. We have multiple spaces available that are ideal for corporate business meetings, holiday parties, weddings, rehearsal dinners, and showers! Sunnybrook offers outdoor wedding ceremonies, rehearsal dinners, post-wedding brunches, and of course, absolutely stunning wedding receptions. Your guests can enjoy cocktails on the private patio, overlooking the beautiful golf course. Our team of executive chefs has created an amazing menu. We have many bar and dinner options perfect for your big day. If you book your reception with Sunnybrook, you also receive discounts on your rehearsal dinner and post wedding brunch!

It's called your big day, but we know the many days leading up to it feel almost as large. With Gull Lake View Resort, we know the depth and breadth of everything you're coordinating. We're committed to understanding your dreams and making your wedding day right. As a family-owned resort, we know the importance of treating you like a family member. Our Wedding coordinators, banquet staff, and support staff are here for you. We're available when you need answers to questions, and we're fully committed to making sure any event-day surprises are handled behind-the-scenes.

Twin Gables is a new barn-style wedding and event center located in Southwest Michigan. It is a large wedding venue able to host large events. win Gables Event Center is easy to get to and well-connected to the surrounding areas. Upon arrival, your guests will surely be endeared by the venue’s scenic setting. They will be treated to a panorama of picturesque farmland, a beautiful backdrop for an open-air ceremony. We have a beautiful new pergola that is very grand for ceremonies. After your ceremony, you can head into the barn to enjoy your after-party. Combining classic and contemporary stylistic details, this versatile barn is a wonderful place to wine, dine, and dance the night away. And if dancing isn't your thing, hang out on the deck with the table fire going.